Sunday, October 12, 2008

FBI Persecutes "Bill White"

[It is no secret that I have strong reservations about the man using the name "Bill White" in the Movement. However, he appears to be getting genuinely persecuted by the FBI, and I feel it my duty to post the viewpoint of anyone whom the power structure is attempting to silence. - HAC]


I want to update everyone on the FBI situation. Please publish this to all white websites to quash rumors and slanders that are being spread by federal assets in the Movement.

First, the FBI only seized our main server and router, and did not touch any of our backup equipment. Contrary to a rumor that was spread, no arrest warrant was issued against me or any other associate of mine.

I have not yet gotten copies of all the paperwork involved, but the FBI seized our web server and a router (erroneously mistaking the router for a "computer storage device") this morning at approximately 7:30 AM, stating that they believed it contained email communications between myself and others indicating that we published the address of a federal juror with the intent of having violent criminal acts committed against him. The juror is Mark Hoffman ("Hale Juror A"), a homosexual Jew with a black lover who was the jury foreman at Hale's trial.

I gathered information on Hoffman, without any assistance from any other party, from pleadings publicly available on PACER and from information publicly available in the White Pages and other similar sources, including Hoffman's own websites. I published this information without any assistance, and have never, to my recollection, discussed Hoffman with any other person.

This event followed a several day marathon of revelations and actions by the FBI designed to stop us from distributing the "Kill This Nigger?" pamphlet discussing the Obama campaign. Starting in March of this year, FBI agents approached numerous white activists and personal acquaintances of mine, and offered them substantial bribes for information on what I am doing. Justin Boyer and Michael Blevins took those bribes and turned false information over the to feds, leading to various investigations against me.

In July of this year, the FBI, angry that I had fired everyone who agreed to provide information against us, approached several people and offered them money and immunity from prosecution, stating that they knew we were not involved in crimes, but asked if the people approached would join and then commit or encourage others to commit violent crimes, then testify, falsely, that I had ordered them to do that. Every one of the individuals approached, to my knowledge, refused, and every one of them was threatened with serious physical violence by the FBI if they told me of the encounters.

One individual has specifically claimed and said he is willing to testify that an FBI agent offered him $10,000 if he would shoot at the home of black journalist Leonard Pitts and then sell me or any friend or associate of mine the gun, thus framing me for the act. This week, on the basis of information Michael Blevins gave to the FBI about alleged "Mexican bank accounts", I was audited by the IRS, with one specific line item they were investigating being whether I retained an attorney to set up "Mexican bank accounts," the rest being minor discrepancies resulting from the fact that private mortgage holders don't always file 1098s and day laborers don't always give correct social security numbers or report their 1099 income.

I have not, and have never, had a Mexican, or any foreign, bank account, whether in my name or in the name of any entity I have held an interest in.

On Thursday, Tim Bland and Justin Boyer testified against me to a grand jury in Roanoke, Virginia. In particular, Justin Boyer testified that he believed the publication of a person's home address on was a "coded message" to him to commit a violent crime against that person. Those who remember Justin's involvement with me will remember that I repeatedly and very publicly suspended him for inappropriate activities, insubordination, and eventually expelled him for being unable to restrain himself to legal activities. [White runs a so-called Nazi Party that has no real existence outside the internet. He apparently has not even met the majority of his "unit leaders" and in some cases his "local units" consist of nothing but an e-mail address. And he wonders why looney stuff like this happens. - HAC]

None of this was mentioned to the grand jury. On Friday, I was approached by several federal informants in the movement who asked to come clean if I would agree not to name them or publicly expose them as rats. One told me of how Mark Martin was infiltrated into the Movement after being arrested in a methamphetamine ring that also involved or somehow implicated Jim Ramm. Another confirmed that Martin was the one who brought Ramm into the Movement. Another told me of Hal Turner's checkered relationship with the FBI. Several told me of how they had been approached and told by FBI agents that the FBI knew I wasn't committing crimes, but was looking for someone willing to implicate me. A lot of details were given that I am not willing to share at this point to avoid implicating specific individuals.

That night, published a brief expose. This morning, the warrant was served. This evening, I retained two attorneys: one a general counsel to deal with a motion to quash the search warrants, and two, a "law enforcement abusive practices specialist" to deal with the civil rights violations by the FBI and the Department of Justice.

All of our backup equipment is intact, and a router is being overnighted to us for arrival Monday morning. I expect the site will be back online Tuesday. I also expect we will receive, this week, a protective order requiring the FBI to copy whatever information they think is relevant to their search warrant and return our equipment to us by no later than the end of the week.

I am aware that the FBI has tried to use this warrant to justify seizing our "Kill This Nigger?" magazines, but, by printing a mini-magazine with the "Hale's Jew-ror" article, they are not able to do so.The server that was seized was and is 100% public content. There is no information on that server that is not visible to the general public by typing in a URL. Because of this, I am not concerned about anything the FBI has taken. If there was anything on the machine that the FBI could arrest me for, I would have already been arrested, because they had it weeks ago.

-Bill White


Anonymous Mike Blevins said...

I DID NOT give information to the FBI concerning ANYONE. I have not given information to any law enforcement concerning Bill White nor would I.

This is a lie.

4:32 PM  
Anonymous Jim Ramm said...

Lies, Lies and more lies.

Bill White is like the little child who cried wolf: nobidy believes him anymore. He never publishes evidence, it always the same crap: we just supposed to take his word for it. Bill your word means shit!

How about a radio interview with these federal informants who came to you and allegedly spilled the beans. How about scanning your search warrant receipt and posting it on the internet? How about posting some court documents on the internet that actually prove what your saying?

For all we know you shut off your server to make your latest collection of lies appear more plausible. You have no credibility: no body believes you.

2:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not true. All that happened is the power got cut off from the property where BIll White is hosting his server. Bill White is currently in bankruptcy court in Roanoke, VA and will be before Judge Stone tuesday and will be attempting to the get the power restored to his properties.

7:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it not at least possible that White has had enough of the whole Movement scene and that he's simply making up this whole FBI scenario so he can make a dramatic exit, and that none of this is actually happening at all?

This is the problem with White. You simply cannot trust anything he says because he MAKES THINGS UP.

9:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I checked with AEP and that is a lie that his power was cut off. Proof that you clowns are a bunch of narcs.

10:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's the rat ?
Those who Bill names without backing it up, or Bill himself ?

11:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


12:29 PM  
Blogger The Old Man said...

Here's a f'rinstance. I have been forwarded a copy of a post made by the man using the name "Bill White" wherein he asserts that I have circulated or forwarded an e-mail stating incorrectly that he is already in prison.

I have no idea what the hell he's talking about, unless it's some oblique reference to my re-posting HIS OWN WORK on this blog, but WTF?I have never made any such claim and I am interested in "Bill White's" doings only peripherally in any case. I don't know what to say except that nothing of the kind ever happened.

You see, this is the biggest problem with "Bill White." He MAKES STUFF UP out of whole cloth, not a completely unknown phenomenon in the Movement unfortunately, but "White" makes a career out of it. A lot of his material is well-written and an entertaining read, and a lot of what he says makes sense--I still think what he's claiming about FBI persecution is probably more or less true--but I don't KNOW, because of his habit of MAKING STUFF UP.

I give the guy the benefit of the doubt and re-post his article, and this is how he repays me, by telling an outright lie about me. This is the second major problem with "White"--you can't TRUST him. He has turned on everybody who ever attempted to work with him, in really nasty and vicious ways.

Intelligence and talent are useless without character. CHARACTER COUNTS, Bill Clinton and "Bill White" notwithstanding.


4:17 PM  
Anonymous Bill White said...


I just got the inside story on Tim bland and his testimony against us last Thursday.

Tim was arrested approximately 45 days ago for theatening to kill barsck obama, allegedly for a comment he posted to Hal turners blog. At the time he was arrested, he was in possession of a crack pipe, and was additinally charged with paraphenalia.

After arresting him on these pretexts, he was offered a deal where the charges would be dropped if he would give false testimony against us, coached by Hal Turner.

However, when he was arrested, when he was released he sent an email to one of our current supporters in Delaware drysuing the whole thing and asking for help, saying he was on drugs, not on his medication, and had not slept for 'weeks', meaning he was probably 100% psychotic when he gave them his 'information'.

The whole thing would be hilarious for its ineptitude if it were not so serious.

Bill White
Commander ANSWP

4:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill White just posted the search warrants in the NSM America Yahoo group.

8:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey idiot post your warrants so the public can see them, not on your freak-group that isn't public.

12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go away Bill, nobody believes your bullshit anymore...

12:29 PM  
Anonymous Bill White said...


I have had five carloads of FBI agents following me around this
afternoon, and I am very concerned they are planning to commit a
violent crime against me and / or member of my family.

While there is little that can be done about this, I did want to make this situation known to our supporters.(As an aside the attorney I was supposed to meet up with to file the motion to quash did not make our meeting, and I am concerned about him as well -- I have a law firm willing to take the case for $5000, and while I have been trying to get an expert at a better rate, I am going to retain them tomorrow morning if I do not here back from this
guy. That means we will need money, since Chris Drake's property has been searched by the FBI and one other senior supporter has reported FBI agents parked outside his home. This is a general legal defense of our members.)

Bill White, Commander
American National Socialist Workers Party

3:07 PM  
Anonymous Justin Boyer said...

Ya Bill, I'm sure you had 5 car loads of FBI Special Agents following you around town...Probably to protect your ass from other White Nationalists who want to fuck you up.

4:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bottom line - I am going to stay FAR away from this guy. Never heard of him, don't know him, but he's drawing WAY too much attention to himself with his activities, whatever they are.

7:13 AM  
Anonymous Segfred said...

It is obvious that Bill White is a Federal Informant, however he is also extremely mentallly ill. The feds have decided that he isn't worth protecting anymore. They get little intelligence from this pariah of the movement that no real Nazi associates with. Bill Whites decided to print the Kill this nigger Magazine with out the blessing of his handlers in the FBI, They are mad and after his ass. Hopefully, the FEDS will finally get him and put him out of our misery.

2:43 PM  

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